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Here is the discussion on the triad example.

Not sure thats how you spell it. Lets add to the scale discussion. Use the cirlce of fiths chart again. We talked before about the single notes in the scale and how the pattern repeats itself. WS WS HS WS WS WS HS. Note the major tiads in the key of F on the attached chart. Root Third and Fifth. Thats a major triad. For a minor triad, you drop the third a half step. Run through the scale in triads. Do Re Me Fa So La Te Do. Play it in thirds starting on the B string. The pattern repeats itself. Its the same in every key. It just depends on where you start. Think of the intro to Brown Eyed Girl. Note the diminished triad is the same as your 5 Chord as a 7th. Let me know your thoughts.

This is the narrative onthe single note example.


This will be elementary to many of you. I have found it very useful to think of the circle of 5ths in a linear way when applying it to the guitar. When I play a major, minor or pentatonic scale, I tend to break the neck of the guitar into 5 sections. There are basically 5 scale patterns that cover just about anything you can think of without considering diminished scales. Take a look at the attached chart. Remember, the key of C is your starting point. I included the pattern that starts on the 8th Fret in the Key of C. No Flats. No Sharps. If you want to play C Mix Lydian, go to the key of F and start the F scale on the C note. Or, just flat the seventh scale degree in the Key of C. Play this over a blues vamp. If you want to play C Dorian, play a Bb major scale and start on the C note or Play a C scale and flat the 3rd and 7th scale degree. The point is the pattern remains the same. For a wide variety of music, there is really only one scale pattern. It just depends on where you start playing it. Let me know your thoughts. dm

Neenie. Once again you have been silent for months. What did you think of the circle of fifths examples? There are narratives on this site that explain what I was trying to get at. Give me some feedback on them if you get a chance.

Neenie. I would love to get together and play some music. You might have to promise not to laugh until passing out if you hear me play the fiddle:) Tammie

Great Neenie. Keep up the good work. I bet you will really enjoy that book. I have given out about 10 or 12 copies to friends and aquaintances over the years. One thing Robben Ford always says at his seminars is "Don't ever forget. There are only 8 notes and altered tones around those 8 notes. Key of C. No sharps no flats. The altered tones are the sharps and the flats. Thats as complicated as it gets". Do me a favor. I put some lessons out on this site related to the circle of fifths and a linear model of the guitar neck. Look them up and let me know what you think of them. I think they are under general discussions. there are PDFs that you can print out. Let me know if they make any sense to you. Thanks, dm

Neenie, There is also a very cool violin part at the end of Danny's Song by Loggins and Messina.

Jeneen, Another good one to work on that I was listening to this morning while exercising. Cuckos Nest (sp) by Nickel Creek. You would need to find a Mandolin player. Awesome fiddle tune.

My mother was a piano player. I know all the lyrics and tunes to just about every broadway musical by heart. My family moved from Helena to Southern California in 1968 when I was in the 5th grade. It was like culture shock. Started listening to the Doors, The Beatles White Album and lots of other stuff. My first song on guitar was Don't Think Twice Its Alright. The second was Blackbird and then Danny's Song by Kenny Loggins. Played off and on over the years until about 13 years ago when my ex wife got me some lessons from Darrell Casey. I have been taking lessons from him every Tuesday morning ever since. Never gets old. Darrell is a great player. The Zen guitar book is awesome. You should get it. I got it at a one day guitar seminar I went to in Santa Barbara by Robben Ford. He is a very good jazz / blues guitarist. I have been to about 6 or or 7 of his seminars. Stay in touch Neenie. I think your family is cool. I don't know your brothers or your Dad but your mom and sister are such nice people. I have 3 brothers, all younger, and 5 sisters 3 older and 2 younger.

Neenie, Tammie is also on this site.